Jim Rome Bashes Fedor Emelianenko
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Now it’s pretty obvious why he didn’t want to sign with the UFC. While Strikeforce does have competitive heavyweights, he didn’t want to fight the best of the best on the biggest stage, he knew better. He refused to take any chances; he milked it for all its worth and he got paid and then exposed and now it’s over.”
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Jim Rome isn't too far off, only it was his management that milked it not Fedor.
agreed
Fedor was the best heavyweight when he was in pride and a bit after, so I don't really mind people making the argument he was the best heavyweight but, calling him the best P4P fighter is completely ludicrous though when you have guys like GSP and Anderson Silva fighting constantly and cleaning out their divisions. Maybe you could make that argument 5 years ago but, not now or the past several years. Fedor does not fight all the best heavyweights and the reason for that is because he doesn't fight enough so cleaning out the division is impossible. Plus Fedor really hasn't fought the new breed of super heavyweights with good wrestling and talent and no Hong Man Choi does not count. I still think what Fedor has accomplished is amazing and will never take anything away from that but, people have to get serious with themselves he's not the best P4P fighter since his pride days.
Oh god. More nonsense about super heavyweights. Cain IS NOT a super heavy. Brock, Carwin and Lashley all posterboys for this group have shown massive cardio problems, and have all lost recently. Even Mir who bulked up recently, has talked about going back down in size.
I'm guessing a lot of people had Fedor no. 1 p4p until his recent loses because he had been on top for SO LONG. He had also beaten such a range of opponents in his career, and his only loss to Kohsaka was not given much credence.
While GSP had definitive losses to Hughes and Serra, and Silva had his losses to Chonan and Takase.
Cain is not a super heavy but, he has good wrestling technique while Fedor struggled against wrestlers and non of those wrestlers were that good. If people don't want to hear about the super heavy's then don't say that Fedor's undersized when he's only about 8 pounds less than Cain. In fact him being the smaller and faster fighter has given him many advantages in the past. Even though Tim Sylvia was big he was slow and doesn't use his weight for much other than stand up.
Fedor was never that good. His biggest wins were against Cro Cop and Minotauro and look how shit they look now and don't give me that crap that oh well these guys have been in so many wars.
"Non of those wrestlers were that good". I think you'll find Coleman, Randleman and Lindland would generally be considered very good wrestlers. And I didn't say Fedor was undersized. He lost a fight. That doesn't devalue his prior achievements.
What has Cain done that is so impressive. He's beaten Nog (well Fedor's done that). He's beaten Brock. Lesnar's had a handful of fights and my mama could take a punch better than him.
fedor is legend.
So he lost twice> its a fluke. first time – he rushed. second time he got crushed by an authentic mma who was 40 pounds bigger,
He probably came in thinking – silva would be like all the other big fighters, but no, silva was very talented. when u have two talented similar fighters. the stronger one is likely to win.
they should no be in the same weight class.
people give up on people way too quickly. everyone thought brock was a G_D TILL his past fight. now thats a loss. but not so by fedor.
i think fedor should prepare for fights like others do. study ur opponent. not just general sparring. and for cruing out loud – build some muscle. bruce lee would be embarrassed of him.
I agree with you.
Fedor could have beaten Silva, if actually made a gameplan and not fight wreckless like he did. He really did underestimate Big Foot.
what business this fool has talking mma? what does he know about fedor? smell like a lot of typical corporate alliance crap…jim rome doing business with Dana maybe?
Hey Rome go back and talk football or baseball, thats your thing, come back to mma when you mature a bit.
Is anyone who takes ill of Fedor in league with Dana White now? Some people are literally so loyal to Fedor they are brain washed. Can't we just be mma fans instead of either pro UFC or anti UFC? Pretty sad…
seriously, having "opinions" is wrong now, you will be classed.
Saying someone is in a corporate alliance because of their opinion is just paranoid but if you wanna call it an "opinion" be my guest… I guess only bloggers can have an opinions but Jim Rome can not because he dare speak ill of Fedor. Wait what's the definition of double standard again?
You do realize I agree with you right?
you 2 sound as stupid as each other. Something about the tone of Jim Rome's report sounds very partisan. It did not sound like it had any objectivity, and he is very good friends with Dana White. I'm not too familiar with Rome's show, but he seemed to direct a lot of venom at Fedor, as well as pleasure at his loss, and it doesn't make sense. "News" diesseminated, whether through newspapers, sports shows, etc, is bound to influence those that watch it. That's why people who read the Daily Mail will often have a certain view about certain subjects. If the UFC could have had a role in this moronic baffoons "sports news", then you would have to be stupid to think that they didn't. Fox News are in the pockets of Israel and the Zionists. Their "news" reporting is completely, almost overtly biased when it comes to this issue. They will never show the reality of the slaughter and holocaust that the Israeli's are carrying out.
"I'm not too familiar with Rome's show…"
then stfu if you don't know what you are talking about. Dumbass.
This guy goes from talking about Jim Rome to Isralies. "If this if that, if if….". Seriously stfu and come back when you actually know what you are talking about and have facts.
They will simply report "Israeli soldiers fired at Hamas targets today" or "an Israeli soldier tragically died today when the bomb he was throwing at a primary school full of Palestinian children went of in his hand. Israel say that these children need to be stopped, and that Israel will defend itself against them by bombing them into next week.". I think you get my point.
Sad two "oh shit"s give these greedy media whores the balls to forget all his "holy shit"s. Dana stil tastes sour grapes and Rome is trying to jump on the band wagon. Before MMA blew-up the burnt guy considered MMA illegit, and primitive compared to the sweet science. Morons. I last saw Fedor when he knocked out the pitbull in midair, countering as he moved aside… He earned his rep.
The sport will miss him.
People forget how good big foot is, and Fedor did very well against him considering the following.
Fedor won round 1 10-9
Fedor lost round 2 10-8
Now let's look into the fight:
1) The fight was stopped by the ref. in between rounds. Fedor's eye looked liked Koscheck's, except Koscheck was allowed to fight 5 rounds with that eye. Fedor 1…
2) Fedor had no quits, even being mounted and having his face pounded in and was still going for submissions to the bell.
3) Fedor lost to a top hw, bjj black belt with 50 pounds of extra weight on top of him.
Kos was allowed to fight for all rounds, but that was a huge risk, considering the dude had to stay in a hospital in boston afterwards for over a week, and he is still being treated for it.
Now in Fedors case, his eye got inflated quicker, and it would have been too risky if he went in the third round. Shots from a big guy like Silva could have meant Fedor going blind in one eye. (13)
For fun:
What would have happened if Fedor ha fought the ufc top guys instead of big foot?
Cain – would not be able to hold Fedor down (big foot had 50 extra pounds an Fedor still got out). Cain is not a bjj wiz and would have been submitted by the kimura or the foot lock…
Lesnar – would have crumpled to Fedor's punching, been submitted on the ground ( Silva got out because he is a top bjj black belt, Lesnar is not…)
Carwin – would have been submitted on the ground.
of all that's been said ^ is the most accurate.
the guys in the SF tourney would beat the UFC heavies, Cain being the exception IMO.
maybe JDS. all other UFC heavies are nothing more than the weaker bracket of the SF tourney.
I totally agree with you.
People just don't look at the fights like they should be watching. They just throw out crap like Fedor isn't the same, or if it was allowed to go to the third Fedor would have won, or Fedor was always shit.
Just look at the damm fight and analyze that.
u alweys have a good point.i need to say no more!!!!!!!
oh you know fedor woul beat all these guys because you can see in the future right. god get fedors dick outta ur mouth.
What it comes down to is Fedor lost to someone 50 pounds heavier with great bjj credentials and still survived and got submissions of his own. Anyone without the bjj ability ( including all of UFC's hw's except for Mir, Nogueira, Nelson) would have been submitted.
Nogueira does not have the weight advantage on fedor to implement his bjj leaving only Nelson an Mir in the UFC to possibly beat Fedor. Mir though has no chin and Nelson has not proven his sub defence and though his chin is ok, he i just not at the elite level.
The only fighter's in the world who would beat Fedor are Antonio Silva, Werdum (bjj world champion) and Overeem ( K1 world champion), all of which are in strikeforce. And i would give the fight to Fedor 50/50 on these.
this is accurate. i think Cain V would give Fedor a lot of trouble. don't know the result, but i think he could put the pressure on Fedor. Fedor might catch Cain with a right hook, but i think Cain would be rough for Fedor.
Madona knows what's up with mma. good comments.
What it comes down to is he lost twice in a row, and once to competition not good enough to remain in the UFC. And honestly I don't think bigfoot is the top of the top yet. He is getting there, but I still don't see him as the best of the best.
I know all you love Fedor, and I'm not saying he isn't an amazing fighter, but the excuses at this point are just stupid. He lost, twice in a row, once in the first round once after the 2nd. I'm sorry I just don't see Fedor beating Cain, Dos Santos, overeem or even some of the other heavyweights. In fact I doubt any of these would even be competitive.
And lastly as for you, Two posts you start naming top heavyweights and leave out Dos Santos, I'm starting to think you speak out of your rectum.
Dos Santos is a top hw with dangerous boxing. Fedor could hang with him on the feet and Dos Santos is unproven on the ground. If it was Dos Santos instead of big foot in the last fight i am pretty sure he would have tapped to the kimura and foot lock. But inded it would be a good match up.
What i do not unerstand about Dos Santos is how in any way could he be ranked higher then Overeem who is way better in every aspect of the game.
And lastly for you, Werdum was not kicked out of the ufc, he left out of contract dispute for the ufc would not raise his pay after his loss to Dos Santos. He was actually promised a title shot in the ufc after beating Gonzaga, but was pushed aside for lack of popularity/appeal..
Exactly. The UFC probably didn't care at all about losing Werdum though, their behaviour is good evidence of that. However, it was not because he was not good enough to be in the UFC. If that was the case, they would have simply cut him. They were in a similar situation to Strikeforce with Shields. Werdum was not an exciting fighter, he wasn't popular, and due to his style, was not appealing to fans. That is not to say that he was not good enough to be int he UFC. He would be a dangerous opponent to any of the UFC top 5.
Fedor certainly hasn't accomplished what he did in his pride days. but for true fans, its more than that. its his class, his absolute lack of any self vanity. the fact that he fights guys that are way bigger than him and makes them look silly, and in the process demonstrates the utmost respect for them both before and after the fight.
i'm a Fedor fan for life, even if he continues and loses the next 10 in a row. why? because the sportsman is an extension of the human soul. Fedor is a champ at heart, win or lose in the contest.
i think the only UFC heavy who compares to this is Cain.
Brock Lesnar, bless his heart, takes cheap shots at people, got mauled by a smaller, weaker yet smarter athlete, and can't take a punch like a man.
don't get me wrong, i like him. but you, my friend, are duped by the same financial machine that is slipping jim rome a paycheck.
Fedor doesn't seem to be what he used to be. but the hatred and criticism of him is beyond me. hatred is cynicism is ugly. i don't think you're demonstrating the former, but certainly the latter.
i'm fully convinced that Giant Silva would beat everyone in the UFC (maybe not Cain) in both skill and heart.
Werdum would murder JDS in a rematch. JDS's lucky shots are about to run out. nice guy, but he's been sliding by an ever-increasingly weak ufc heavyweight division.
It really is more than your Ws and Ls. Well put.
I cant believe im reading that people think the UFC heavyweights arent as good as strikeforce's. thats a bunch of BS. look i love fedor just as much as anyone, but im a realist. and looking at the situation realistically, fedor has let the mma heavyweights pass him by when he wasnt fighting. Its the fastest evolving sport in the world, if you take three years off of fighting decent compeition, they are going to have improved and you are not. None of the SF heavy's have fought any top competitio recently, why? because ALL OF THE TOP HEAVY'S ARE IN THE UFC. half of the fighters in this grand prix arent even ranked for crying out loud!!! and yet SF has the best heavyweights? right, continue being delusional. Dana is an asshole, but hes right about SF and about fedor. thats the truth
rankings are subjective. Lesnar held the #1 HW spot for a few weeks. considering how dana white gave him a free ticket to the championship and his lack of experience, was he ever truly the number 1? no way. its all subjective and economically driven. people who take the rankings seriously are the same kind of people who cheer for the yankees and lakers because they're "dynasties." its all just a popularity contest on the part of journalistic pandering.
i think the only way Fedor is behind is his lack of training in a cage. he seemed confused when he bumped the cage in the Silva fight–same problem Shogun had his first 2 ufc fights. looking at his training facility vids, he seems to not be training in a cage–big mistake!
jim rome is a fucking idiot that doesnt know shit about mma
Jim Rome has obviously been taking it up the butt so much from that bald aerobics teacher, that some of Dana White's urmmm.."white" is starting to spew out of his mouth. I am genuinely shocked by the venom and animousity directed at Fedor. It is not like Fedor got beat by a smaller guy (Brock vs Cain anyone? Dana white put Brock on The Ultimate Fighter after that loss in which he covered up in foetal position against a guy that has been criticised for not having punching power! And he says that people who question Brock's lack of mma expertise are "idiots"??? Throw me a bone please). And this Jim "The Schmuck" Rome douchebag, saying "that's not a guy getting suckered into a savvy submission move or getting caught with a big punch". What does this skinny douchebag know about mma? what a prick.
He did get caught out by a great takedown after he went for a huge punch (Silva timed it to perfection) and as a result, the big guy with an extra 50lbs got to mount and savagely punch Fedor. Urm did Fedor quit? He ended the round by going for a submission you idiot. Did they have to drag him to his corner? He got up before Silva. It was Silva who looked laboured getting back up. We've seen so many fighter fight with a closed eye, so that doctor was wrong to stop the fight. Don't get me wrong, I can see why he would do it, but in a big fight like that, plus the fact that it was inconsistent with other decisions not to stop fights, I don't think it was the right decision. Dana white would have pooped himself if Koschek or any of his other fighters were stopped like that. Now to say that Fedor was done and was going to lose the fight is slightly uneducated. If the ref stopped the fight between Brock and Carwin, which he legitimately could have, everybody would be saying how Carwin destroyed Brock. If Brocks eye was closed and the dr stopped it after round 1, we would have the same scenario as Fedor.
People saying "he killed him" and "if that went to round 2, Brock would have been slaughtered!". Well that didn't happen did it? Even if Brock had 1 eye, the result would have been the same because a) Carwin lost heart at the fact that he couldn't ko Brock and b) being huge, and punching somebody like that saps everything from your muscles. You feel depleted and weak after expending such energy. There was some evidence of that happening to Silva, check the comments on the story with the photo of fedor's eye on this site. So Jim Rome is an a-hole who knows nothing about fighting. It's just the UFC trying to sabbotage another organisation because they feel threatened by them. This heavyweight tournament has got me excited about mma again. I can't wait to see the Reem take on Werdooooom! SF cannot avoid criticism either.
They have taken an amatuerish approach with the matchups. If THE REEM beats Werdum, the only other good fight is him vs Big Foot. After that,, the final is alwaysgoing to be an anticlimax. It would be exciting to see Barnett vs Overeem, but Barnett's stand up sucks, and I think that he will get destroyed. If he does take Reem down I think that the Reems grappling must be at a good enough level by now to get it back to the feet. I think it will be over in 2 minutes lol. A better final would have either Fedor, Silva, Overeem, or Werdum fighting each other. Each preliminary fight should contain only 1 top seeded fighter. Bit of a fail by Coker. I don't think Coker is a good manager, I prefer him to White because he is humble, and allows his fighters to fight with other organisations, and is not a control freak, but he is a bit of a soft touch sidekick type and needs somebody with more brains and balls to be the front man.
Anyway, I have a great Idea for Dana White. Instead of bragging about how superior your heabyweights are, why don't you cross promote? Allow them to fight against Strikeforce fighters. It couyld be called "The Ultimate Strike Fighting Force Championship Tournament". Seriously, if you are so cocky and sure that you have better heavyweights, don't give me any excuses about "we don't need to co promote with a smaller organisation". Do it for the fans. Prove it. I know that you have 24 ball lickers licking your bvalls in 1 hour shifts all day long, but let's see what your about. Oh, you have bad experience of this? When you sent Chuck to fight in Pride and he got beaten the hell out of by Rampage? Come on douchebag, I think that you are the one that is scared here. My honest opinion is that Fedor would beat all the UFC heavyweights. Reem would beat all, although I could see Cain testing/beating him. Silva? I think he would clean sweep too.
Put your stupid grin faced money where your mouth is. Come on fans, time to put some pressure! Reclaim mma! If he does it and loses, it will humble his annoying ass and shut him up for good. Well at least for a day, until he brings back Tank Abbot and Kimbo Slice, and starts calling out Fedor again.
i like Ruckus!
dana white is a corrupt liar who has tourette syndrome and fixes fights from time to time.
Its a wrap for Fedor … M1 deaded his whole career. The Strike force heavy weight division sucks! if u use Fedor as a measuring stick then u have no clue.. His 3 fights in Strikeforce fighting average fighters who are now being viewed as the greatest forces in the division are comical. Cain, JDS, Carwin, hell even Mir would run through that entire Strikeforce division. Fedor's done …we won't have to hear his name now unless its in the past tense. Good bye …
Sad to see things go this way for Fedor. He needs to drop weight and fight at 205 if he wants to stay competitive. He will only be faster if he does and he sure has the weight to lose.
Hmm wach what the fight doctor that stopped Fedor's fight had to say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo_gABtEVQY . (MMA HITS dude, you should post this up). This doctor shocks me a little bit because he says that his primary reason for stopping the fight was not necessarily the eye, but because Fedor had bruises on his body and head, he was worried that there might be internal bleeding! what the hell? This doctor is an idiot! It might be "possible" but if that were the case, then that would be the end of mma, because anybody that gets a bruise, will have to be stopped byt the doctor. This doctor is incompetent. The fact that he says that there wasn't any protest by Fedor is another factor of this guys incompetence. It was clear from the footage that Fedor did not know that the fight was being stopped. Problem in translation! But the most worrying thing about that statement is why vring it up?
Even if a fighter protests, it shouldn't have any bearing on the doctor's decision if his clinical opinion is that the fighter is in no fit state to continue, and that further punishment could likely lead to serious damage. Why would you even cite that "fact". For me, this is evidence that the doctor did not know what he is doing, just like we have boxing judges who do not know what they are doing. It may be brutal at times, but mma is a sport, these are very tough, verys strong, highly conditioned athletes that have trained expertly and rigorously. You need a doctor who understands the sport. A boxing doctor might be shocked at the "savagery" of seeing a guy being punched on the floor by a sasquatch.
A doctor in mma would understand that fedor is as tough as old boots for surviving and overcoming that situation, and although his eye was bruised and closed up, was still in a position to continue. I met a former British bantam weight boxing champion recently. I asked him what he thought about mma, and he said he couldn't watch it because he didn't like to see people getting punched while they were on the ground, and that it was savage in that sense. Most mma practicioners would know that it is not easy to ground and pound a guy, that there is a skill to getting out of that situation and a skill to ending the fight there. These are completely different sports, and the judges, dr's, officials, etc need to get educated before being involved.
Rukus get over it. you've been crying all week on here. Jim Rome said it best "its over" ….. Fedor's done now. You can still gloat about all his past achievements but as far as this fight if concerned … he got mauled …. if silva took him down in round 3 and elbowed him on that eye he might be blind on one eye. u care more about fedor's legecy than his well-being? sad … fedor didn't look upset about the fight being stopped one bit. that should be enough for you to move on. he looked glad it was over.
Yeah "Mikey D", you would have said the same about Brock Lesnar if the ref stopped it against Shane Carwin. I'm not pissed that Fedor "lost", in fact he was getting beat both in the stand up, and on the floor. I am a Fedor fan, not because the guy wins all the time, but because of the way he fights, his courage and his manner. He may have been getting mauled by a huge guy, but he survived it, and was up for round 3. Fedor was upset that the ref stopped it, his manager said so, and Fedor showed no emotion at the stoppage. There may have been a bit of confusion, he is not english after all. Anyway, your "if Silva took him down and elbowed him in the eye" is a bit of a lame argument. This is mma, anything can happen.
That was not a necessary outcome was it? Also, I was making the point that the ref did not stop the fight on the basis of the closed eye. He was worried that Fedor had bruises on his head and body, and said something like "I was concerned that there might be internal bleeding". The doctor was clearly not familiar with mma, and like any inexperienced observer of mma, would have probably thought that Fedor was getting killed on the floor.
He was losing, but the possibility that he could have recieved serious internal bleeding is ridiculous hahah. Apart from the bruised eye, he was fine. He could have fought with the eye like that, I have no doubt. To summarise, I wasn't pissed that Fedor lost, I was pissed that after he showed determination and heart to survive and get out of a bad situation against a goliat, and to go for a submission and be ready to go again, and then to get told that the fight had to be stopped as a result of some doctor's misinformed medical opinion, well it just feels like injustice. And then all the idiots start talking rubbish about how Fedor is done, and that he was destroyed and lost and s past it, well that doubles that injustice.
The guy had the heart of a lion, perhaps his tactics in round 1 and 2 weren't right, but the guy is heroic, and you don't see that a lot in mma. He is very well mannered, never disrespects anybody, and has a lot of guts. Your GSP's, Brock Lesnar's etc, maybe tough on the outside, because they train hard, but we have seen them get broken. I just find true toughness a rare attribute, and that is why I like and stick up for Fedor. I never gloat about his past achievements, I have always been talking about this fight. Are you Dana White?
If that quote is accurate, Rome has exposed his complete ignorance of MMA.
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